Are we getting the 8NR-FTS 1.2T? - Toyota TJ Cruiser Forum
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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 05-31-2017, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
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Are we getting the 8NR-FTS 1.2T?

Everywhere you look everyone is saying the FT-4X will get a "small displacement four-cylinder engine" without further insight. Thinking in terms of small, new and adequate for this application, the 8NR-FTS 1.2T comes to mind.

Toyota has a couple more 4-cylinder engines but this is the smallest they get. What are your thoughts?

8NR-FTS 1.2T Specifications:
  • Type Four cylinders in-line
  • Valve mechanism 16-Valve DOHC,chain drive with VVT-iW (intake) and VVT-i (exhaust)
  • Displacement (cc) 1,197
  • Bore x stroke (mm) 71.5 x 74.5
  • Compression ratio 10.0:1
  • Max power (bhp/kW @ rpm) 114/85 @ 5,200 – 5,600
  • Max torque (Nm @ rpm) 185 @ 1,500 – 4,000

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last I checked a 2 liter 4 cylinder engine is medium-sized, so that negates us getting the CH-R's engine. If true, i'm glad that's the case because people have been complaining about power.

185 torque coming in around 1,500-4000 will give this all the get up and go it needs.

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Just realized that the unit of measure above is in Nm and not lb-ft in which case that translates to it coming with ~136 lb-ft of torque which is quite sad. The Civics 1.5T produces 177lb-ft @ 1900rpm and that's in a small sedan. Something like this will need more power in my opinion.
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Just realized that the unit of measure above is in Nm and not lb-ft in which case that translates to it coming with ~136 lb-ft of torque which is quite sad. The Civics 1.5T produces 177lb-ft @ 1900rpm and that's in a small sedan. Something like this will need more power in my opinion.
Looking at models this will compete with, Kia Soul being one of them, its easy to see how well this 1.2T works in a basemodel or even a trim above. Its a city car after all. Then there's the fact that we don't know what further changes Toyota has planned for it. For all we know it could be making 15% more power and torque in the TJ.

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We don't even know if that's actually the engine they'll be using thankfully, so there may still be a chance of something else going in there. If it does make it to the ~150ish lb-ft area, then that would be sufficient.

Anything below that mark and I feel like it'll be lacking that performance. The Renegade provides 175lb-ft which is ideal I find.
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post #6 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-16-2017, 09:06 AM
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What about the 2.5-Liter 4-Cylinder DOHC in the camry? That thing in the sedan is rated for 178 hp @ 6000 rpm and 170 lb-ft @ 4100 rpm, not too bad and maybe it can be tuned for more lower end torque?
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That would be a lot more ideal than the engine mentioned above as it provides an adequate amount of power and through tuning just solely for shifting the power band, it'll be perfect. Would always love to have a turbo engine but hey, you can't always have what you want and the 2.5L NA motor sounds a lot more beneficial although it probably won't do as well in mpg.
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I believe the 2017 Camry gets an estimated 24/33 mpg, not bad considering how beefy the sedan is. Could see something similar in the TJ Cruiser and I assume most people looking for weekend getaway car like it wouldn't look too closely at the fuel ratings. We can also look at what the 2018 Camry is going to be offered with.
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post #9 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-21-2017, 02:12 PM
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That displacement engine might be too big since 2.5L is about the biggest you can get with a 4-cylinder engine. This being a product built to last another 7-8 years its not what would be suitable. Smaller displacement with turbos to make up for the lack of displacement is what they'll do.

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post #10 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017, 09:02 AM
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That is true indeed. Speaking of smaller displacement and turbos, a key thing to remember for longevity of these engines would be knowing the proper turbo etiquette. I've seen a lot of oem turbos get destroyed because dealerships just don't tell people on how they have to care for the engine operation.
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