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Not much happening on the Geneva Show site yet. I am hoping the TJ Cruiser will show up there which will give me hope that it will be at least sold in Japan and Europe. Then after that it can hopefully come to the US too.

If the FT-4X is what we get, I hope it gets the TJ's front seat fold down to carry long loads.


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Even if the Cruiser or FT-4X doesn't show up at the Geneva Show, I'm hoping the journalists there are willing to question the reps there about the future of these concepts.
I really do like the fold down seats that lay perfectly flat, that's not something you see in any other vehicle and it's revolutionary.
 

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I know they have ambitions of peddling these as city vehicles and with that comes the need to make it as livable as possible. A versatile seat setup will be part of that. After all that is going to be the bread and butter of the product. Only so many will actually use it for off-roading purposes.
 

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I don't think this concept is supposed to have the same offroad potential as the FT-AC, from what I remember. That will largely depend upon the trim options as we could see a similar "Adventure" trim for this concept. I think the FT-4X showcases just how creative the minds at Toyota can be, as this utility vehicle brings a lot of new tech/functionality to this segment.
 

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I don't think this concept is supposed to have the same offroad potential as the FT-AC, from what I remember. That will largely depend upon the trim options as we could see a similar "Adventure" trim for this concept. I think the FT-4X showcases just how creative the minds at Toyota can be, as this utility vehicle brings a lot of new tech/functionality to this segment.
As frequently referenced I guess all we have to do is refer to the Jeep Renegade because it too has trims sort of like what you find on higher up Toyota models, which of course should find its way here. Although a Renegade Trailhawk is far more subtle than what a TRD Pro TJ would be.
 

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The Renegade has the Selec-Terrain Traction Management System, so I assume something similar we could see in the TJ Cruiser could be what's already found in the 4Runner, the full-time 4WD system with A-TRAC and Torsen limited-slip center differential with locking feature.
 

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The Renegade has the Selec-Terrain Traction Management System, so I assume something similar we could see in the TJ Cruiser could be what's already found in the 4Runner, the full-time 4WD system with A-TRAC and Torsen limited-slip center differential with locking feature.
If we can get features like Hill Start Assist and Hill Decent Control I will be very impressed even if it takes buying the highest trim TJ. What it could do for sales of lower trim TJ's is a big deal. During a time of some major culture shift (or back to what they use to be about) it should be natural to see things like this come to market.
 

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Those two driving aids just seems pretty useless on me unless you plan on going over a lot of very steep hills and your limbs will be tired from controlling everything. Would rather see the 4Runner's tech pack in the top trim Cruiser.
 

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Those two driving aids just seems pretty useless on me unless you plan on going over a lot of very steep hills and your limbs will be tired from controlling everything. Would rather see the 4Runner's tech pack in the top trim Cruiser.
Not exactly, its more for the "next-gen" experience of off-road and the techy edge it brings rather than at what intensity of off roading it would be needed. If that was the case then Lexus LX's wouldn't have it when most owners rarely if ever go off road.
 

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I thought I remember reading that Toyota was supposed to "go big" at the next auto show? So by go big they meant show off some TRD variants of models that already exist? And newer pickups like the Ford Ranger/Raptor have some pretty incredibly off road technology, that controls everything aside from steering, allowing the driver to focus on navigation/orientation.
 

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I thought I remember reading that Toyota was supposed to "go big" at the next auto show? So by go big they meant show off some TRD variants of models that already exist? And newer pickups like the Ford Ranger/Raptor have some pretty incredibly off road technology, that controls everything aside from steering, allowing the driver to focus on navigation/orientation.
Wish I knew where you read that. I would love to read it too.
 

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Actually , what I would be looking for is some spy shots of one of the concepts being road tested. That would probably come before any announcement of production. I would really get excited then!
 

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I'd love to see some of their concepts out in the elements. There is only so much to be gained by viewing a new car, parked and in the spotlight. I think its more than likely that we will see such photos of the new Rav4 before the TJ, but who knows. And I found the articles around Toyota "going big" and it was in reference to the Chicago Auto show.
 

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I'd love to see some of their concepts out in the elements. There is only so much to be gained by viewing a new car, parked and in the spotlight. I think its more than likely that we will see such photos of the new Rav4 before the TJ, but who knows. And I found the articles around Toyota "going big" and it was in reference to the Chicago Auto show.
We already got a vague look at the new Rav4 which doesn't help too much. However if you use your imagination, some of the FT concepts design can be seen in the new R4:

 

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We already got a vague look at the new Rav4 which doesn't help too much. However if you use your imagination, some of the FT concepts design can be seen in the new R4:

Actually if you study it closely , it is pretty much EXACTLY like the FT-AC. The big fender flares are gone and they left off the cross bar on the grill (you can see where it fits in and can be put back). Study it side by side with the concept and all the bumps and grooves of the tester are the FT-AC's lines pushing against the back covering. Also , the roof rack is gone.
 

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I'd love to see some of their concepts out in the elements. There is only so much to be gained by viewing a new car, parked and in the spotlight. I think its more than likely that we will see such photos of the new Rav4 before the TJ, but who knows. And I found the articles around Toyota "going big" and it was in reference to the Chicago Auto show.
We basically already saw the RAV4 when we saw the FT-AC. Not much mystery left there. The excitement will build for me if the FT Cruiser and the FT-4X are spotted camouflaged and on the road! That may happen even before the FT-4X gets it's production name.
 

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Well its good to see that there seem to be a lot of similarities between what we saw in concept with the FT-AC and what we're seeing in a production model. I hope this bodes true for the FJ as well, at least in terms of its exterior styling. I know there is zero chance that we will see most of the interior styling cues that were in its concept, as it was a far too modular set up.
 
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