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Thanks for sharing, it's definitely been a struggle trying to find any new information online in regards to the TJ. Hopefully some spy shots will give us some confirmation as to whether or not Toyota has decided to make any serious changes to the concepts design.
 

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There are some large shows coming up and I hope journalists will speak with the Toyota rep about the TJ Cruiser. Before Toyota makes a final decision and announces it, I don't think we'll see a test mule under camouflage driving around. At least that's my take because why work on a prototype if they're still unsure about its future?

But I'm hoping to be wrong.
 

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There are some large shows coming up and I hope journalists will speak with the Toyota rep about the TJ Cruiser. Before Toyota makes a final decision and announces it, I don't think we'll see a test mule under camouflage driving around. At least that's my take because why work on a prototype if they're still unsure about its future?

But I'm hoping to be wrong.
Who knows what's in the mind of Toyota. But what I am looking at is the FT-AC experience. It was shown as "concept" and very soon after we saw it disguised on the road and is seen as the new RAV4. I don't believe they take a car out on the open highway before it is close to production ready. It may have issues during it's road test that can be fixed before production, but it has gone long past the decision to build, or not.

I think show "feedback" is a bit of spokesman game playing. Oh sure they want your opinion, and maybe tweak it in response. We have seen two concepts, one or both will be produced. I don't think I have ever seen a new model
officially introduced without someone snapping a picture of it out in the wild first. That's why I am expecting our next news to be a spy shot. Sometime after that will be the big announcement...... might not even be at a show, since we have basically already seen it at earlier shows.
 

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I feel that Toyota know's what its should do and knows if it doesn't deliver.... more years of boring products will just send people elsewhere. Lucky for them other Japanese brands aren't as cool as they were decades ago, but these days that could change, it is very slowly to a non-threatening level to toyota so far.
 

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Well seeing as how Toyota stepped things up this year for their TRD series, hopefully its an indication that they see the need in the market for more utility vehicles. I think Toyota has recognized it's time for them to do some redesigns and release fresh models. It's evident with the new Rav4 that they realize just how unique they need to make it, in an effort to compete in this highly competitive segment.
 

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Hopefully they don't change the Rav4 so much that its no longer what we always expected in a Rav4 product.
I think a big part of this will be how it sells world wide compared to rival models. If it doesn't hold up then the Rav4 could change in drastic ways.
 

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Hopefully they don't change the Rav4 so much that its no longer what we always expected in a Rav4 product.
I think a big part of this will be how it sells world wide compared to rival models. If it doesn't hold up then the Rav4 could change in drastic ways.
Well since the FT-AC is the next RAV4, do you think that is too much change?
 

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Change is progress in my mind and cars are always being modified to be more competitive. If you look at an older Rav4 to what we have today, it's a huge upgrade both performance wise and aesthetically. A FT-AC could just be the next step for all we know and I'd welcome it.
 

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I think we'd all agree that the FT-AC is a smart direction for the Rav4. We really haven't seen much change in Toyota's popular CUV over the years, and I think this transition will serve to attract many new buyers. They've really eliminated a lot of the risk by introducing this model as the next generation of Rav4.
 

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Well since the FT-AC is the next RAV4, do you think that is too much change?
If it looks close to what we can see in the following rendering then it will be a welcomed change and one I look forward to, just as long as its functional, even if we have to move well up the trims:

 

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If it looks close to what we can see in the following rendering then it will be a welcomed change and one I look forward to, just as long as its functional, even if we have to move well up the trims:

Great picture ....thanks for posting an un-camo rendering of the new RAV4. Fits what I thought would happen when the FT-AC was cleaned up for production. It wasn't too hard for car scoops to come up with this rendering, since it was pretty obvious the camo version was the FT-AC with the production changes.
 

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The interesting thing I noticed about the car scoops rendering is that they show it without the the brushed chrome bar grill as was the case with the camo version. I was guessing it was just a way to disguise it and it was removed. Now I am wondering if only upper level versions will get the chrome bar. I personally like the de-trimmed grill as shown here.
 

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i don't think the test mule has a brushed chrome bar, or it doesn't look like one to me. But the rendering seems pretty spot on everywhere else when compared to the ridges under that camo. i may just go with the new Rav4 if it looks like that and has some added ground clearance. Unless the TJ Cruiser comes before or shortly after it.
 

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Man that rendering looks clean, Toyota has knocked it out of the part with the Rav4's new look. I personally think the grill looks better matched to the body color as well. Seeing as how early reports suggested that this model was more off road capable than the FT-4X, we may seen a lot of interested buyers transition to the Rav4 instead.
 

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i don't think the test mule has a brushed chrome bar, or it doesn't look like one to me. But the rendering seems pretty spot on everywhere else when compared to the ridges under that camo. i may just go with the new Rav4 if it looks like that and has some added ground clearance. Unless the TJ Cruiser comes before or shortly after it.
Sorry, I mis-stated in my last post. I meant that the FT-AC had the brushed chrome bar. It was missing on the camo version. Just one more way to "camo" it.
 
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